After all, this is television, not an art-house cinema in Greenwich Village.
After all, this is television, not an art-house cinema in Greenwich Village.
noike skrev:Favoritmening:After all, this is television, not an art-house cinema in Greenwich Village.
Efter två avsnitt är jag säker på att jag hade följt serien oavsett vem som hade gjort den. Var du beredd att ge upp på Angel efter andra avsnittet också? Som var grymt sämre än det här.gaspode skrev:Penny Arcade har inte helt fel i sin analys. Jag är ganska säker på att jag vid det här laget hade lagt serien åt sidan och väntat på att andra skulle säga bra saker om den, om det inte varit för Joss.
noike skrev:Edit: jag undrar snarare hur många som hade varit mindre kritiska om det hade varit någon annan som låg bakom. För han ger inte folk det de vill ha från honom: en mysig magi-serie med dräpande repliker från allas munnar.
lilith skrev:Det har helt klart börjat bättre än både Angel och Buffy. Firefly gillade jag nog bättre efter några få avsnitt än Dollhouse efter nu tre avsnitt. Tror jag.
Question: I hadn't realized how much I appreciated your Internet columns until they weren't there. And I really hate not having had much insight into your opinions of Dollhouse as it begins. I see the beginning as a pretty good start, but definitely just a start. Here's hoping the ratings improve for both it and Terminator, but those sleazy promos have to go. Ugh. —Anna
Matt Roush: I missed you all, too, more than you’ll know. And isn’t Dollhouse an odd creature of a show? I’m intrigued by it, if not convinced yet that this show will end up in the Joss pantheon of classics. But the three episodes I screened before the premiere (1, 2 and 4) got progressively better, which is a hopeful sign, ratings aside. And during several public appearances I attended with Joss Whedon in New York before the premiere (moderating a panel at the New York Comic-Con and, a few nights later, a gathering at the Apple store in Soho), he promised that the sixth episode, airing March 20 (the same night as, sniff, Battlestar Galactica’s finale), is a real game-changer. That’s the episode when Echo and Agent Ballard finally cross paths. As is usually the case when a show this offbeat is in its infancy, I’m hoping it will find its way and get the time to prove itself. The numbers on Friday, as expected, have been pretty pitiful, but that was to be expected. As for those “sleazy” promos: I though they were kind of fun in the way they evoked ’70s “grindhouse” sexploitation. Of course, anyone who knows anything about the Terminator series, and Dollhouse for that matter, knows these promos didn’t reflect their true spirit. Still, can’t blame Fox for trying. Now we just have to trust that the network will leave both shows alone until the end of the season before making a decision about their (iffy) future.
Calling his latest creation's first episodes mere "baby steps," Joss Whedon is getting the word out that from Episode 6 on, Fox's Dollhouse will be an extra-compelling place to visit.
In a note to reporters (or "Newsly Types," as he puts it) accompanying a DVD of "Man on the Street" (airing March 20) and "Needs" (April 3), Whedon says, "These two episodes represent a much stronger vision of what I consider the show to be."
Thus far, Dollhouse has been met with a lukewarm reception, with Whedon loyalists in particular noting a lack of the author's trademark witty dialogue. The ratings have reflected such a frustration, dropping 25 percent from the premiere to barely 3.6 million heads at last count.
But since almost before Dollhouse opened its doors, the buzz has been that the structure of the first five hours was largely dictated by Fox, so as to drive home the unusual concept and morally gray characters. Episode 6, thus has been described as "game-changing," as Tahmoh Penikett's Agent Ballard comes face-to-face — and "fist-to-fist," teases Fox — with Echo (Eliza Dushku) for the very first time.
Says Whedon in his missive, "For me, the question isn't just whether a show is enjoyable, but whether it's more than the sum of its fun, whether it truly touches, surprises or connects with you. These [episodes] may do none of the above — I'm not the boss of your opinion — but I feel strongly that they, and the eps to follow, are pretty intense, and very much worth the watching."
"I assumed it was dead in the water because the network was refusing to air the thirteenth [episode]," Whedon said. "Not refusing, but just not interested. I assumed that meant the bell tolled for us. And they made a point of calling and saying, 'That is not what it means, and we'll keep you posted.'"
"I think they want it to succeed. I think they're getting it," he added. "They need it to succeed enough for them to pay for it. So I'm oddly hopeful but I'm also ready for anything."
(...)
On possibly moving to cable with future projects: "...This thing happened with ['Dollhouse' star] Eliza [Dushku, who had a deal at Fox]. I wasn't pursuing television. If I had decided, 'I want to do television,' I think I would have looked around and said, 'Well, clearly I need to get on cable'" because of the content restrictions of the broadcast networks.
(...)
MR: So, "Dollhouse." The first and most obvious question -- what are the chances it will come back?
JW: The chances are existent. It's not done huge numbers, but with DVR, demographics, blad-dee-blah-dee-blah -- all the boilerplate that's true about not living in a Neilsen world anymore is still true. Creatively the show found its footing rather dramatically the last few episodes, and the last ones we have coming up are fairly insane.
He had come to Chicago to appear in a live version of the radio show "This American Life"; there's more on that here.
Joss Whedon ("Buffy the Vampire Slayer") will sing in public for the first time.
adolvsson skrev:Utan att ha läst mer än början ännu, känns det som jag vill kaste ute ett stycke till, något som specifikt kan intressera speciellt en person i vår gemenskap. Det här:He had come to Chicago to appear in a live version of the radio show "This American Life"; there's more on that here.
Mr.Tweed skrev:Det som karaktäriserar riktigt bra serier är ju att de tar tid på sig att bygga upp handlingen och karaktärerna.
This revival comes after a disappointing first half of the season, in which Dollhouse seemed to be handcuffed by the need to give Fox a procedural show and by the conviction that Eliza Dushku could carry the show week after week. Maybe it was by design that the show shifted gears midway—if so, it seems like unecessary design in retrospect—but now, as an ensemble where we divide our time between Ballard's egocentric quest and the Dollhouse's cynical machinations, it is utterly mind-blowing.
Should a good run of a few episodes toward the end of the season be enough to earn Dollhouse a renewal? Absolutely, from where I'm sitting. Like a team going into the playoffs on a winning streak, momentum matters here; I care more about Dollhouse's forward motion than its past consistency. And consistency is overrated anyway: I'll take a show that swings for the fences and is occasionally amazing over one that is reliably satisfying any day.
adolvsson skrev:Utan att ha läst mer än början ännu, känns det som jag vill kaste ute ett stycke till, något som specifikt kan intressera speciellt en person i vår gemenskap. Det här:He had come to Chicago to appear in a live version of the radio show "This American Life"; there's more on that here.
Och där står det:Joss Whedon ("Buffy the Vampire Slayer") will sing in public for the first time.
Tufft.
Which is why I hope against hope to see it again, even (or especially) in one last season that gives it a chance to play out its story. And also so we can see more of the supporting actors who have really become the reason to watch, especially Amy Acker, who showed impressive range in the last couple episodes as the revealed doll Whiskey.
And if it doesn't come back—well, then I'm hoping against hope that after this, and Firefly and so on, Fox (and other networks) will learn that when you're making a show with someone like Joss Whedon, you may as well go all in or go home. A pipe dream? Maybe. But in the words of the Beck song that beautifully closed Dollhouse's first, and hopefully not last, season, "Everybody's gotta learn sometime."
The problem here, though, is that the part Dushku is playing may be essentially impossible for someone with an established persona – ass-kicking chick – to play. Hell, it would be hard for MOST people to play, but Dushku has to portray a number of different people but still keep a certain element of a core soul present in all of them. It’s a tricky balancing act and one neither she nor the show have quite figured out just yet. (It’s worth pointing out that Dichen Lachman (Sierra) and Enver Gjokaj (Victor), who also play dolls, seem to be doing a better job of managing this trick than Dushku, but neither also comes with the substantial baggage of having played characters recognizable to genre fans in the past.)
This just in:
Dollhouse: It's true! Multiple sources confirm trade reports that Fox has picked up Joss Whedon's Dollhouse for a second season. Thank you Kevin Reilly! You're the prettiest of all the network presidents!
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