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Diskussioner som inte rör specifika avsnitt av Dollhouse hör hemma här.

Inläggav HeY » ons feb 18, 2009 22:34

Enligt imdb är hon med större delen av säsongen. 7 avsnitt för att vara exakt :)

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Inläggav AKS » ons feb 18, 2009 22:47

Okej, det låter bra.
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Inläggav fanimej » mån mar 02, 2009 4:38

Yeaaay! Min nya favvoserie...


(det var ett tag sen man var här men jag var ju tvungen att komma hit nu för att prata Dollhouse)
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Inläggav adolvsson » lör mar 07, 2009 15:50

Jag älskar att det finns en ny Joss-serie att diskutera. Jag älskar den och jag älskar att dyka in i avsnittstrådar och få skriva massa nya ord om den. Det är fantastiskt. Undebart. Superopti-mopsiskt-topp-i-pang-fenomenaliskt.

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Inläggav Rombat » lör mar 07, 2009 15:54

Det är helt klart trevligt. Synd att den inte är bättre ännu bara. :P

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Inläggav AKS » lör mar 07, 2009 17:57

Medhåll. mest om att det är kul med en ny Joss-serie! Men även om inte CotW är så jäkla kul hela tiden (= en gång? aldrig?) så tycker jag att det som har med arc att göra känns mycket, mycket lovande. Det lär vara riktigt intressant då vi kommer till säsongens/seriens sista avsnitt det är jag helt övertygad om.
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Inläggav AKS » sön mar 22, 2009 1:34

Dum som jag var klickade jag på en länk och såg ett foto från något kommande avsnitt. Vet inte vilket, men jag vet i alla fall att jag ser fram emot det efter att ha sett fotot... :)

http://pics.livejournal.com/gossi/pic/0001f37f/s640x480 (SPOILER)

Ser väl inte ut som den där implant-maskinen, men det ska bli spännande att se hur Echo kan vara sån i dockhuset...
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Inläggav noike » sön mar 22, 2009 2:12

Var försiktig med sådant. (spoiler om vad som finns spoilat) Vem som är castad som Alpha finns där ute.
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Inläggav AKS » sön mar 22, 2009 2:51

Jepp, den spoilern har jag också dykt på. Bara dte att jag blir så inne i en del serier och per automatik i en Whedonserie att jag besöker X antal sidor och då dyker man på saker ibland. Inte bra.
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Inläggav fanimej » mån mar 23, 2009 20:56

Senaste avsnittet var riktigt bra enligt mig:), E.D är kanonbra som Echo. Me likey! :extas: :extas:
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Inläggav adolvsson » tor apr 09, 2009 21:13

Jag... jag... vafan...
Felicia Day skrev:Man, day getting worse and worse. Found out my Dollhouse ep, #13 isn't gonna air. Only on DVD. Such a great part too. Thx Fox. :(

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Inläggav Tam » tor apr 09, 2009 21:17

Nej :emo:
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Inläggav adolvsson » tor apr 09, 2009 21:20

Fucking weird. Avsnitt 12 kommer bli säsongsavslutningen, avsnitt 13 inte sändas och inget beslut är taget angående en andra säsong. Det verkar vara statusen just nu. Ingen uppgift om varför 13 inte ska sändas. Det här är dock första gången jag känner mig negativ på riktigt angående utsikterna av en S2. Fan.
Well, I like to eat cheese. And I sometimes like to think of cheese…How it came to be. The magic thing is that there’s just, you know, a cow. And then there’s the grass and the sunlight, and then here comes the cheese…It’s kind of amazing. - David Lynch

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Inläggav caffeineaddict » tor apr 09, 2009 21:22

Crappy McFuckCrap! :angry:


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Inläggav noike » tor apr 09, 2009 21:37

Poop.

Vansinnig idé: de håller på avsnitt tretton och visar det innan en s2 om det blir en sådan. Men de kommer använda det som en morot för att få så många som möjligt att beställa dvdn och se på de siffrorna innan de bestämmer sig angående fortsättning eller ej.
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Inläggav gaspode » tor apr 09, 2009 21:56

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Inläggav Spuffy » tor apr 09, 2009 21:57

:eek: Vad är det här för hiskeligheter!?!?!?!?
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Inläggav adolvsson » tor apr 09, 2009 21:57

Rövhattar och knullvåfflor.
Well, I like to eat cheese. And I sometimes like to think of cheese…How it came to be. The magic thing is that there’s just, you know, a cow. And then there’s the grass and the sunlight, and then here comes the cheese…It’s kind of amazing. - David Lynch

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Inläggav gaspode » tor apr 09, 2009 22:00

realistically, man kapar väl inte säsongsfinalen av en serie man vill ge en säsong till. De har bestämt sig men beslutet är inte formellt taget. Kan inte gärna vara på nåt annat sätt.. Fuck. de kunde väl åtminstone fått sända säsongsfinalen tycker man. ovärdigt. :(
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Inläggav noike » tor apr 09, 2009 23:19

Men det är FOX! Vi pratar inte normal tv-kanalslogik här.
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Inläggav A bear » tor apr 09, 2009 23:32

Tydligen är tolvan den "riktiga" säsongsfinalen och tretton ett summeringsavsnitt typ "Restless".

Det sagt så kan FOX kyssa min håriga vita röv.
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Inläggav adolvsson » tor apr 09, 2009 23:38

Från Tims mun (eller fingrar, om han nu, som den late jäkel han är, inte använder sig av röst-till-text-verktyg eller en assistent):
Okay. So maybe I can help clarify this somewhat. Because we scrapped the original pilot -- and in fact cannibalized some of its parts for other eps -- we really ended up with 12 episodes. But the studio makes DVD and other deals based on the original 13 number. So we created a standalone kind of coda episode. Which is the mythical new episode 13. The network had already paid for 13 episodes, and this included the one they agreed to let us scrap for parts. It does not include the one we made to bring the number back up to 13 for the studio side and its obligations. We always knew it would be for the DVD for sure, but we also think Fox should air it because it’s awesome.

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Inläggav gaspode » tor apr 09, 2009 23:39

*sätter sig ner i båten igen*
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Inläggav HeY » fre apr 10, 2009 4:59

Update från Kristin, typ samma som adolvsson postade men lite mer spekulationer etc.

UPDATE, 3:38 p.m.: Spoiler alert! Just snagged ya'll some exclusive new info on "Epitaph One." A source whispers to me that "Epitaph One" comes from the writerly brains of Joss Whedon, Jed Whedonand Maurissa Tancharoen. It's a totally non-finale-ish stand-alone episode, and—here's the crazy part—it's apparently set in the future, after the apocalypse, amidst total anarchy. And yes, I am describing an episode of Dollhouse, not a scene from Terminator. No word yet on where, when or how we might be able to see it if not on Fox, but just off the top of my head, Hulu, DVD/Blu-Ray and/or a special Comic-Con screening all come to mind. What sounds good to you?


Fox will not be airing the "13th episode" of Dollhouse, as tweeted by @drhorrible and @feliciaday. However, there appears to be some debate about what qualifies as a 13th episode and what qualifies as a season finale. Here's what we've sorted out about the end of Dollhouse...

Brace yourself, guys, because there's going to be math in this story.

Fox the television network ordered 13 episodes of Dollhouse. As everybody knows, they scrapped the original pilot, "Echo." So that is 13 less one, which brings us down to 12. The 12th and final episode that Fox the television network ordered and paid for and will air is called "Omega" and was written and directed by Tim Minear (who has told us he "can't wait" for us to see it).Focused on the Alpha storyline, sources say that "Omega" apparently "closes some doors and opens other ones" and was always intended to be and to effectively serve as the season-one finale. ("Omega" logline, if you're into that kind of thing: "Alpha's reign of terror continues as his obsession with Echo endangers Caroline's survival. Ballard must make a life-changing decision, and one Doll is permanently deactivated while another's shocking past is revealed.")

Now, let's go back to the original equation and add in an episode called "Epitaph One." "Echo" the original pilot plus 12 episodes through "Omega" plus "Epitaph One" brings us to a total of 14 episodes.

The 14th episode, "Epitaph One," was produced and paid for by Fox the television studio. It was never ordered, requested or paid for by Fox the television network, and Fox the television network will not be airing "Epitaph One." Working on getting you more details about "Epitaph One," but it's said to be more of a "stand-alone" episode.

(Note: Tim Minear just posted on Whedonesque about "Epitaph One" saying, "Because we scrapped the original pilot—and in fact cannibalized some of its parts for other eps—we really ended up with 12 episodes. But the studio makes DVD and other deals based on the original 13 number. So we created a stand-alone kind of coda episode. Which is the mythical new episode 13. The network had already paid for 13 episodes, and this included the one they agreed to let us scrap for parts. It does not include the one we made to bring the number back up to 13 for the studio side and its obligations. We always knew it would be for the DVD for sure, but we also think Fox should air it because it's awesome.")

So, to summarize, Fox the television studio made 14 episodes of Dollhouse, and Fox the television network paid for the 13 that it originally ordered and is airing 12 of them.

A last, and very important, note: According to sources on the network side, the net's not picking up and airing "Epitaph One" has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not they pick up the series for a second season, a situation which, I'm told, is "100 percent in the decision phase." You can obviously believe them or not as you choose, but I take them at their word. I may be a sucker like that.

Got any thoughts on whether or not you'd like to see "Epitaph One" and/or a second season ofDollhouse? Post in the comments.

(Originally published April 9, 2009, at 1:31 p.m. PT)

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Inläggav Tam » fre apr 10, 2009 16:35

noike skrev:Vansinnig idé: de håller på avsnitt tretton och visar det innan en s2 om det blir en sådan. Men de kommer använda det som en morot för att få så många som möjligt att beställa dvdn och se på de siffrorna innan de bestämmer sig angående fortsättning eller ej.

Jag har lärt mig från min kompis Tim Minear att det inte är TV-kanalen som tjänar pengar på DVD-försäljning, så att skapa en sån morot har de inget intresse i. Men om DVD:n säljer en hel massa är det ju ett bevis på att det finns sätt att tjäna pengar på serien, så på sätt hjälper det ju.

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Inläggav A bear » sön apr 12, 2009 10:13

Joss om Dollhouse förflutna och framtid

(spoiler itty bitty småspoilers) - On the topic of Dollhouse's much-discussed and instantly legendary thirteenth episode, "Epitaph One", Whedon shared a few details that I don't think have been reported previously. The episode was mostly shot on video, as opposed to the film used for the other twelve, which should be an interesting stylistic fit with the episode's reported post-apocalyptic setup. The episode might also not be quite as much of a standalone as has been suggested; he mentioned that the episode addresses and even somewhat answers some of the most important questions regarding the Dollhouse. He also said in no uncertain terms that he wants people to see the episode on TV, not as a glorified bonus feature on the DVD release. (But Joss, what about the Prison Break finale? Don't you want to see when they realize the real prisons were in their hearts all along?).

- Whedon spoke candidly about his problems with the first few episodes of Dollhouse. He admitted that he has made episodes that have nothing to say, for which he is ashamed. He singled out the fifth episode, "True Believer", as one that fails to explore the motivations for why people join cults and how these reasons connect with why people end up in the Dollhouse. Ultimately, he said, though there's nothing wrong with making television that is merely diverting, it's not something he's interested in doing.

- He also addressed one of my biggest random questions about Dollhouse when an audience member asked whether we will be seeing actives with some of the less cool-sounding code words in the military alphabet, such as "Golf" or "Hotel." Whedon explained he had written an entire bit all about the active Golf, but it got cut, meaning we won't see Golf or Hotel on Dollhouse this season. Or, as he put it, we won't be seeing them on Dollhouse, period.

- Indeed, he was generally highly pessimistic about the show's prospects for a second season, all but acting as though the show had already been canceled (which, for the record, it hasn't yet, at least not officially). He didn't give any specific reason for his opinion, although one might guess lackluster ratings and bitter experience are contributing factors. This means he won't even be entertaining the notion of a Dollhouse musical episode, although he did say that, if he could hire Actives from the Dollhouse, they would be of the all-singing, all-dancing variety.

- Whedon explained that Dollhouse is not a feminist show, as to make it explicitly adhere to any set system of belief would make it didactic instead of dramatic. When an audience member asked whether he saw it as troublesome that all the actives were unfailingly young and gorgeous, he acknowledged this to an extent, mentioning that early drafts of the show had involved actives of all shapes and sizes to reflect the fact that people's fantasies don't always adhere to Hollywood's conception of attractiveness, and the beautifying of the Dollhouse was one of the realities of dealing with Fox. There had been an entire early subplot about an active named Tango who was an older woman, but sadly all of that had to go when the show's direction changed.
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Inläggav eriked » tor apr 16, 2009 10:13

Här låter Whedon mer hoppfull. Lite små minispoilers om avsnitt13
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Inläggav adolvsson » tor apr 16, 2009 11:40

eriked skrev:Här låter Whedon mer hoppfull. Lite små minispoilers om avsnitt13
http://www.fearnet.com/news/b15344_pale ... _goes.html

Jag gillar när han är hoppfull. Det får upp mitt hopp. Både om nästa säsong och att få ser 13 på TV. Eller, ja, datorn innan dvd-releasen, men ändå. Fast allra viktigast av allt så låter det inte som en Joss som kommer bli helt förkrossad om DoH dör efter första, inte till den grad att han helt ger upp TV, vilket var vad jag fruktade tidigare, och det känns skönt. Både för hans sinnesfrid och vår underhållnings skull.
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Inläggav HeY » tor apr 16, 2009 15:00

We also talked about next season, they called me specifically to say we've been hearing you sound a little despondent, being very clear about this, the show is not cancelled. The numbers have been soft, but the demographic is wonderful.


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Inläggav AKS » tor apr 16, 2009 16:32

Den där demon är underbar om man förväntat sig crash and burn-scenario à la under 1.0 eller nåt. Så de måste ha förväntat sig det. Bra för oss! Hurra! Nu fick jag upp lite hopp igen trots att 1.09 fick värdelösa tittarsiffror.
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