How long would you bake if you did one at a time? My cake mix is now due for a little more liquid love. I started my soaked fruits about a month ago(Nov 14) and I really can't wait to try it out. Remember you can always tailor this to your own taste by adding any other dried fruits you may like. https://caribbeanpot.com/how-to-make-caribbean-black-cake-part-1 BF calls it liquor cake So glad I did because it smells wonderful. dark rum 2 cups (try to get a spiced rum) Had to let you know I made this Christmas Eve and it was enjoyed so much it only lasted 2 days. I have been looking for a recipe for black cake . (all pre-cut for ya). the fruit cake is real good thank you so much. Well, I'm about ready to make this delious Black Cake. This was some great info and while i have been successful previously by using the Naparima Girls cookbook in conjunction with other sources this is probably the most definitive recipe for how I want to do by Christmas/Black Cake as my minced fruits have been marinating all year in good Grenadian (River Antoine ) rum. I also use dates and apricots NEVER MIXED PEEL. wooooohooo THANKS CHRIS!! Of course, Give it another try sometime. Hey Chris, Last Christmas was the first time I made black cake for my wife I always buy because she like it. You can substitute the alcohol for grape juice. Hi Keva! Will let you know how it turns out. So here I am……baking a Black Cake for myself!! How soon after its out the oven should i add the rum, whine sherry… 2. Will let you know how ah mek out. We’ll start by giving the prunes a rough chop to make it easier for the food processor and it also allows us to verify that each prune is truly seedless. I love t’dad black cake,,,the family moved to t’dad from madeira when i was a 5year old boy,,,,my aunt soon learnt how to cook trinidad food including the wonderful…..black cake…she had the dry fruit soaking for months,,,and i love the taste of the soaked fruit even at early age i had a good taste for trinidad food……which i still cook in london…….lovely, Hi Chris. I intend to set up one soon for next Christmas. 6 large eggs Hi Chris wonderful recipe here… couple questions 1. I usually get lazy and buy one ready made, nothing like ours from Barbados; but not bad, and I cut slits in it and pour on some whisky and wine until it is soaked up. Besides the scent of freshly painted walls, varnished floors, new curtains and bed sheets… the tempting fragrance out of the oven leading up to and including Christmas day is one of pure joyful memories for me. i need to get some coins ahead. Give it a good stir to make sure the fruit absorbs all the liquor goodness and get ready to place it all into a container which can be sealed. 1t baking powder Have a good christmas. You as they say are a master and I am learning from the “BEST”. But I have a question. My Military family love Blk cake the best. You can always refer to the video below for help in preparing the fruits for making this Caribbean black cake. Seeing that I was using a hand mixer I added the soaked fruits in two batches to make less work for the mixer. Secondly, a tiny slice is sufficient if you want to stay reasonably sober . I have been marinating my fruits since October….getting excited to make this for the first time in my life and share with my family and friends. If you prefer you can always “soak” the fruits without pureeing and do that step the day you’re actually making the cake, but I find that not only is it more convenient to have this step done in advance, but the fruits seems to absorb all that rum flavor and goodness much better when everything is pureed. Expensive dish, so didn’t want to make any mistakes. I simply dont have time. I’m about to try this recipe. I will be using this one. Hello Chris, I have always wanted to take a Trini black cake recipe and bake it in muffin tins. If I make only half the cake batter recipe, will I loose anything in the transition? In this recipe I used up all of the pureed fruit in the cake. I baked mine on the middle shelf of my oven if you’re wondering and it was completely baked after 2.5 hours. I just wanted to say I appreciate your cake recipe and it is a Great step by step guide to making a Rum Cake etc. When I lived in B’dos I would look forward to their Black cake- couldn’t get the recipe. Emelia. Inverted the cake and brushed other side as well. The traditional Caribbean Christmas cake, aka euphoria! Thank you for the recipe how to prepare mix fruits. Port is red wine mixed with brandy (as learned from my time working with a major Canadian wine store). Hey Chris! I got a bit overzealous a few months ago and soaked a whole batch of fruit (more that 1lb of each). Mr Man was old school. Great for giving as Christmas gifts. You da man!! Brushed with the Sherry, had no more rum, drank the rest during the year. He had to adjust  the mill the right coarseness for the consistency of the final fruit mixture to be perfect, or my mom would have an ear-full for him. This is just my preference. I didn’t realize that in North America, prunes are associated with constipation…. I must also warn you that if you were to open this bottle during the ‘soaking’ period, you’ll be tempted by the lovely aroma.. to grab a spoon and eat some. Love your work please keep up the great work. Oye! What is your cup measurement in weight? The next step is basically to put everything into the food processor and to add about a cup or two of the rum/sherry into it and puree to help the processor. I’m going to try it. After you remove the cakes from the oven allow it to cool for a bit, then you can brush a mixture of rum and sherry over it and allow it to soak through the cake. The longer the fruit sits in the alcohol, the better it tastes; minimum 2 weeks, maximum 3 months. Or would you suggest that I only make the whole recipe? Hey Chris I made this last year family loved it .I’m Guyanese so its a bit different from my mom and grandmother.Any how we will enjoy it this year again. Do you ever answer any question posted? Just a small tip , add a pan of water in the oven under the cake for a really moist cake . Trust meh! My mum and brother both swear that it tastes just like the black cake and a friend of mine from Guyana said the same when I gave her some last Christmas. I’ll be using a food processor to mince or puree the fruits, but if you’re old school and want to use a food mill.. do your thing. Continued blessings on your head. Any idea how to do this in terms of oven temperature and cooking time in the muffin tins? It’s a good thing I soak more fruits like you said for this Christmas so it was a quick make. Hi Chris, I look forward to part two of this. 1 teaspoon vanilla Hello fellow bakers, this is the first time I am attempting the fruit cake. Michelle, in North America when we say cup, we have what’s called a measuring cup. I soak my minced fruit for about four months in dark rum as supplied to the British Royal Navy (in which I served for twelve years)and vintage port wine. At home, my wife and mother are really cooking up a storm. Comment document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a232adcbe66a21221b5cddfb7acfa043" );document.getElementById("jd12ba9202").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Article from caribbeanpot.com How To Make Caribbean Black Cake Part 1. Wish me luck!!!! The next step is to pour the entire mixture into a large bowl and add the rest of the rum and sherry. The cake came out great and it was tasty. Also, buy two lemons (firm), wash and dry them. CARIBBEAN BLACK CAKE AKA CARIBBEAN RUM FRUIT CAKE AKA CARIBBEAN FRUIT CAKE RECIPE. They came out wonderful. Thanks again. Thanks for the recipe I have never made this cake before, I am making this cake and whilst mixing in the eggs the mixture looks a little watery. I’d be interested to hear if any of these alterations have been tried and if they have turned out tasting ok. Hi CK, I made this cake with butter and with margarine, and they were both good. However, I have a few questions…1 tablespoon of browning had the cake a bit light in colour so i added another tablespoon. It works that’s what my mom use when she is baking the black cake. !Thank you!! I made this cake for Christmas & it was amazing… The cake went in two days thanks to my mum & sister. I now had the ‘wet’ batter completely mixed. When you mention that we need 1 lb of mixed peel, what kind of mixed peel, like orange peel, grapefriut peel? . Black cake is one of those desserts you’ll find in just about every Caribbean home during the Christmas holidays and as we’ve discussed in part 1, just about everyone does things a bit different. In another bowl I placed the flour, pinch of salt, cinnamon, nutmeg (if you have freshly grated that would work best) allspice and baking powder. Is it suppose to be refrigerated? Was not here for the Christmas and am having family and friends over on Sunday. I promise you this is way better than my other recipe and yes this recipe can be doubled. I already have my fruits soaking since 2009 and I finally found a recipe that i can try..will post the outcome when I'm done , WOW SINCE 09 THATS GOING TO TASTE YUMMY GOOD LUCK!! CaribbeanPot.com – The Best Caribbean Recipes Online by Chef & Gourmand Award Winning Cookbook Author, Chris De La Rosa. My granmother loves this cake, I'm gonna definately try this for christmas….. How To Make Caribbean Black Cake - Preparing The Preserved Fruits.. Mine was soaking from January. She learned how to cook, growing up in TnT and is a boss in the kitchen. Many thanks Chris. Hi Chris, Take a fork and scrape the zest from the grater. I like to put some chopped almonds in mine (not my moms recipe). Awesome recipes. I have not yet found the perfect recipe… this could be the one. Cool for a few minutes, remove from pans and place on parchment paper with foil underneath. do you think if i soak the fruit for a month it will be ok, as apposed to a year? Black cake, rum cake, fruit cake… yea, it’s well known throughout the Caribbean and I can bet my last dollar that no two recipes are the same. I use 4 pounds of mixed dried fruit–prunes, dates, cherries, raisins–whatever, and 1/2 pound of almonds. A very Merry Christmas to you Chris and all the people on this excellent site. I shall try your recipe also. Tastes amazing. She used fruits that Mom soaked many years ago to make black cake for Christmas and just to be on the safe side, she followed your clip. This sounds like a great recipe and the way my mother made black cake , I am going to get busy right now. and about the sheery, i'm not a sherry drinker, however could i try to purchase a "Cherry Sherry" OR could you reccomend another type of booze.. yayyyyyy, just as long as it has the second booze.. Now I am looking for a recipe that tells me how much exactly of the soaked fruit to add. sorry to make this email so long, but i need to have all my ducks in a row b/4 i start.. doesn’t the membrane from the eggs make the baking/cooking smell fresh? My grandmother used to set the fruit for a year also. Hi Natasha As for the cake… It’s a Caribbean style  burnt sugar browning. * Traditionally cherry wine or cherry brandy (an alcoholic drink unique to the Caribbean) is used along with rum, but I used Sherry instead since it was the only option I had available. I burnt my cakes ! I am from Grenada and make your cake frequently. That’s why there is lime zest in the recipe, To correct myself i meant i am soaking 4 pounds of each fruit, Hi chris in the basic recipe its a pound of everything right..so how come you used more than two cups of fruits ?I am just trying to figure out the ratios because i am soaking pouds of each fruits together so i wanted to know if two cups of the final fruits mixture would be correct…thanks, To correct myself i meant i am soaking 4 pounds of each fruit together. 10 eggs Thank you for this recipe, I certainly have learn a lot thank you .I remember those days back home we the younger kids took terns to wash the butter but instead we are using unsalted butter instead the way you showed us to make it as i remember is exactly i was taught .Usually my sister baked my cake but this year she will not be baking so i will ,thanks for the tips, great job, Im about to give your recipe a try. We’ll now start adding the dry ingredients to the wet batter, but do so in 1/3 amounts (so three times). Great job. Glad you had fun with the recipe. here, asking how was your cake. No (kidding).. email and the FB fan page are the best places to get answers. When you soak the mixed fruits in port wine and rum, for about a year, it will give you the color and you wont’t need as much browning which does change the taste. In part one of this black cake making recipe we focused on preparing the aromatic fruits we’ll be using to give the cake it truly unique Caribbean flavor. Yesterday the same group of people called and asked me to make it again. This is what I found worked for my mother and aunt. Your email address will not be published. Just wondering, have you (or anyone reading this) tried making this recipe with Margarine instead of butter? I’ll be ‘brushing’ the rum on in a while. With the essense, cinnamon, nutmeg, fruit, dont need so much sugar; especially since I’m going to put royal icing on it. And she used a special finishing technique Mom had – moist, delicious and infused with a rum, sherry and port. I love black cake. (disgusting) Alchohol over the cake will certainly keep it moist and mellow,opposed to being pudding like….. I used 74 (brand) Port for MORE richness to soak my fruits, a bit of XM and a dash of Grand Marnier soaked all the above fruits for 3 months in glass jars. 4-5 cups dried fruits (puree/soaked) As we got older, this job became ours (I still have a love for prunes as I’m sure my mom’s recipe had about 1/4 lb less prunes than what she started off with)… if only I could convince our daughters to help me! Sometimes they try to cater to the islanders. sherry 4 cups I just baked a cake at 180oC for a 2.5hr recipe and it took only 1 hr!! Hi Chris~ A blessed holiday season to all of you. Delectable!!! Pour in enough batter to 2/3  up the pan and place in a preheated 250 F oven for 2.5 hours. Comment document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a5384d4a5a98295e58a1263e0f5e463b" );document.getElementById("a2081747cc").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Delia…. Master Chef Chris, I started giving it a few pulses (just to get things going), then I had it run until I got a thick but smooth consistency (with a little chunkiness). Required fields are marked *. Hi Chris Have a good holiday with your family and friends. How do I increase the recipe? Oh my Chris, I followed your recipe to the T…so they r in the oven baking and Voila..can’t wait to eat me some Black cake!! Hey Chris, on your recipe you said 250 C, shouldn't that read 250 F Thanks again! I will give you an update. This can be stored in any cool dark spot in your kitchen or pantry. My family wants me to do roti every week now. Give that a good mix and I would even suggest sifting to really have it mix evenly. 1 # flour Hi Chris season greetings to you and your family. Required fields are marked *. I would love to try this however I dont drink alcohol is there a way to substitute the alcohol? If not how is it best stored? Jan 4, 2015 - Considering the cake can take months to prepare, hours to bake, and is full of fancy fruit (in the Caribbean dried raisins and cherries are much harder to come by than, say, a banana) , Black Cake is a sign of real love. Dec 5, 2018 - Feel free to vary amounts and types of dried fruits and spices depending on availability and your preference. Sherry is white wine mixed with brandy. The fruit alone is addictive and will make anything taste great. After you have a smooth and fluffy batter base, it’s time to start adding the eggs. Here is our CGA Trini Christmas Back Cake recipe: Ingredients 1 lb Marigold Margarine or Butter 1 lb sugar 10 eggs 2 tbsp. I also use any left over wine I have. May God’s unconditional love continue iin your life. Please use the recipe below as a guide to come up with your own unique twist to this most loved cake and do get your children and loved ones involved. For the actual cake I add peanut butter, veg. I love it and now that I am followeing your recipe I know I will do a good job. However, it's of course not active working time ;-) and the cake is not difficult to make at all, so don't let the length of the instructions scare you! * if you prefer to use granulated sugar instead of the brown sugar I mentioned, by all means do so. I really cant wait to make this black cake. thanks for sharing. See what you meant about brushing with more alcohol after baking. Recipe for preparing the fruits for making black cake, fruit cake, rum cake or Caribbean Christmas cake using a recipe … I also use dates as well as prunes and the other fruit in your recipe. We are only 2 ppl in this family, but Im hoping that I can give some to family & friends to try b/4 Christmas to get feedback. Since our Mother passed 3 years ago, she's been getting even better and we are fortunate enough to be the recipients. Today we’ll spend some time preparing the fruits we’ll be using in the actual black cake recipe, as it’s important for the fruit to soak or marinate for at least a month before it’s ready for making the batter for the black cake. Thank you. I can dip out fruit anytime and it’s ready for use. Happy new year to you and your family. (delicious easy-to-follow recipes directly to your inbox). 1 teaspoon mixed essence 250 on my oven is setting for warming, so 275 for 2.5hrs worked perfectly. I never measure the fruit, I just use what I like in any amount. just a question when you store your mix have you considered using mason jars?…with the mason jars you sort of “lock” in the flavors but with added safety…. THANKS CHRIS, I THINK YOU ARE AN ANGEL, YOU COOK FROM THE HEART, LOVE YOUR RECIPES. I also want to bake this in a round 10inch cake tin, would the measurements be the same? I made this cake today and the directions were very clear and easy to follow. My father was a master baker and confectioner so I picked up a lot of his skills, one of which was wedding cakes and other celebration cakes so after that visit all my cakes were made from the black cake recipe which I have adapted to my own idea. This is how my mommy would make around beginning of Nov. We would have it for Thanksgiving! You will also notice that the color will become more pale as you cream the butter. I will be making a black cake for my sons wedding. 1t cinnamon Hope it turns out well. Already soaked the friuts as you suggested in Part 1, can't wait to bake it I am sure it will taste yummy . Additionally, I used a dark spiced rum which complimented the overall bouquet I was looking for. I hope someone has an answer for me. Nearly burnt my cake. Please check your email to get started. A Non Traditional Caribbean Christmas Rum/Fruit …. cherry? the fruit or the brandy? thanks and have a great Christmas. Hi Mervene, I will omit the lime zest and bitters as he never used those. i love fruit cake, but i wanted it to be extra special. for the cherry brandy he uses sherry here and ive seen people say the use other strong fruit wines or like port or something. Im also master roti maker thanks to you. Keep safe. Thnks from the resident Bajan. I store in a large covered plastic box for at least two months—more is better. Our cousin, Anna, has a real "sweet han' fuh so". I can’t wait to try a piece. May 21, 2020 - Learn how to make Trinidad style coconut sugar cake with simple step by step instructions from cookbook author Chris De La Rosa. Will be using your exact recipe. Tip : Crack each egg into a small bowl first so you can fish out any shell if any pieces fall in.. this way you’re not diving in the batter for it). When ready to make the cake I use the darkest muscavado sugar I can get and a generous amount of molasses. My cake turned out to be a great success. For e.g Test Fruits if soft, with a fork, if soft turn off fire and rest til cool then add more rum and port then add to you mix as Desired. Should I have put in extra flour? As a Trini I always had a member of the family do the baking, but here I am in the US and there is no one I can rely on to do it for me. 1/4 teaspoon nutmeg (freshly grated if possible) This is my absolute favorite cake for the Christmas holidays. Am a lover of black cake. Currently have new batch of fruits soaking. It’s a great recipe. By now you’ll start getting that wonderful scent of cake batter, spiced by the wonderful soaked fruits. Have what ’ s June now and it took only 1 hr!!!!!!!!. 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