I refuse to watch the Anime in Japanese, because the English dub is much better. Ed and Al find Mei Chan and Dr. Marcoh before Al lets Winry out of his armor to Mei’s dismay. Nope because while I'm against using the stone to save the only family I have left, I am completely fine with my friend Ling here using it for political gain. Envy is by far my favorite character, and I want to be absolutely sure of what happens to him, rather than lingering around. Okay fine. ScarxOC. For why I enjoyed FMA 2003's ending so much, here's a link to a previous blog I made. The Elric brothers of Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood show us that failing is not the end. Why didn't he just ask Izumi? He was ALMOST crushed, but he was missed. As a result of often sharing his spot with animals and Hiromu Arakawa's alter-ego, the character has been shown angered after the end of the polls, to the point of killing Arakawa. He claims he's doing it in god's name. So altogether they carry Roman (christinaty), Greek and Persian (Zoroastriaism) power. I'm glad to see that it has! Here's the deal with them: In the fourth century, there was a Christian ascetic monk by the name of Evagrius Ponticus.His list was a little bit different than the list we have today. It’s about fury. So I'll do bullet points to keep it organized. Transmutation you will find is a subject not lightly spoken of. I remember reading this months ago before I knew about hubpages! It's completely okay for mustang to use the stone to get back what he lost but Ed and Al? I'll be discussing things at a level which necessarily requires stating specific details. Yeah, that's an example of the rebirth process. Still love it man! Failing serves as an indicator of earned knowledge and a step toward mastery. Year: Season 1. Owen Sanders, you comment made me realize something. Have fun and oh I can't wait for the comments to this. As the truth is little more than our interpretation of life given the knowledge we seek out for our selves. So Ling is willing to have Ed use, and possibly use up mind you, the philosophers stone. A starter. Anime/Manga Fullmetal Alchemist. That’s why I liked it, all the homunculi die ironic deaths, envy was humiliated to death, 3. Hint: He doesn't drain it. 60 鋼の錬金術師 FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST Episode 60 review Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood – 60 SPOILER Summary/Synopsis: As Brosh and Ross are reunited at the radio station, Scar and Bradley continue their battle, inflicting damage to each other. We see that Al can trade his soul for Ed’s arm and vice versa. Hopefully I've included enough food for thought to get everyone's mind working a bit. I'd love to hear in the comments section. Roy Mustang is cut through the palms of his hands. "In order for something to be obtained, something of equal value must be lost." The whole point was to show Eds character development. He devoted his life to studying alchemy -- he was also a devout Christian. When he died, he left some symbols to adorn his grave, one of them being Flemel's Cross. However just know that this is going to be long and this is going to be strenuous as this has been eating at me for a long time. So when he manages to pin down Colonel Mustang, and he chooses to impale both of Mustang's palms... that's pretty interesting. This could be interpreted as god's integrity being preserved, or alternatively, as Ed being blasphemous towards the idea of a god. He was crushed by the fist of god -- literally. The priest wasn't named Leto, Leto was the sun god. Follow/Fav Scar's lover. For oneself. Asspull so that everyone lives happily ever after. 18. The simplest explanation for this symbol's meaning, would be the endless circle of life: life, death, rebirth. The “God Power” is literally fueled by the philosophers stones, 10. A glimpse for those who are ready to receive the message. I thought the humunculi were just a collection of souls that had one sin as their main attribute thus birthing a fake person with said attribute consuming their personality. One is the revenge against the murderer a person's friend, the other is for revenge on the genocide of a people by various other people. After all this, I've yet to be smote. He knew it wouldn't bring back his brother and everyone else who died, or even make the remaining alive happy, but he killed state alchemists as a way of striking back against the country that had used alchemy to slaughter his people. Yoki arrives and is stunned to see Ed and Al, … In Ed's case here that would have been pride. Nicholas Flemel was born in 1330, and died in 1418. The process fails, and as a toll for using this type of alchemy, the older brother, Edward Elric loses his left leg while the younger brother, Alphonse Elric loses his entire body. However just know that this is going to be long and this is going to be strenuous as this has been eating at me for a long time. This website saves cookies to your browser in order to improve your online experience and show you personalized content. Stream Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood on HBO Max. 27. How? The symbol probably came into existence between 1500 and 2000 years ago in Egypt. These symbols are very clear. What this was not, however, was unintentional. 10. Specifically, the series seems to touch on religious ideas a lot. Symbolically, Ishbalans are arab muslims who are living in Israel/Palestine and probably also in Syria/Jordan. And he uses it to destroy alchemists, who he says are a crime against god. Hagane no Renkinjutsushi – Fullmetal Alchemist Ep. I had hoped that a hub like this would spark some thought, and perhaps discussion. When Kimblee attacks them, Scar's brother shields Scar and later even cuts off his own arm and transmutes it onto Scar to save his life. And I wanted to thank both Belligerentkj and Ben for leaving the comments that they did. Specifically, the series seems to touch on religious ideas a lot. When Scar realized his brother died, he went on a rampage which ended up killing Winry's parents. See also: Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood. This was basically saying that there is nothing that you are capable of doing in order be justified. Seeking the Father in Church -- that's about as good a time as any to toss out some symbolism. There I said it. 3. Mustang, a lot like Ciel and his want for revenge, is trying to kill envy for himself. Al lost his body to alchemy and human transmutation, therefore alchemy can be lost for Al. Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood - Episode 64 (FINALE) Review ... as long as they use it to heal Havoc first. Scar goes to Liore hoping to get his revenge but what he ends up doing is capturing a military captian. Well also to mention the fact that in brotherhood toward the end of the seris hohemiem and that girl+ al seem to use the satanic pentigram often used in withcraft and the study of satanism. Were it not for how this series ended I wouldn't have even considered going back and watching FMA 2003. S1, Ep1. What it also consists of, is the Rod of Asclepius. The pharisees were a very prideful group that claimed strict adherence to the law and strict punishment for those who broke the law. - fullmetal alchemist brotherhood wrath vs scar - Saved from deviantart.com. Yeah? Hoenhime asked for Ed to use him as the toll for Al. I chose not to touch on the subject of Truth, because, to be honest, it's still pretty hard to work my mind around what commentary was being made with regards to him. How many more Ishbalans must I kill for that to happen? When Edward and Alphonse fail at resurrecting their mother, they are exposed to a truth that shakes them to their core. This parallel between him and Jesus solidifies this status. When you break it down, it's pretty interesting. By: fangirl1993. Great show for the first half but then the last 15 eps or so kind of fucked the show up for me, A place to express all your otaku thoughts about anime and manga. :expressionless: 23. So there you have it. The Sewing Life Alchemist, Shou Tucker, uses alchemy to create a chimera by combining the bodies of his young daughter Nina and the family dog - only in the name of science and without remorse. The entire final fight takes place in a gray void. When fans of Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood are first introduced to Scar, he's considered one of the villains of the series. It does bring a smile to my face to see the interpretation and enlightenment of religions; so open to the mind of those willing to seek out the truth. Voted up! 13. While Scar and his brother were near opposites and Scar never understood his brother's studies regarding alchemy and alkahestry, he genuinely cared for him. Give father some credit, he knows that XD he just doesn’t give a fuck, 9. Really Ed you're not going to put them out of their misery by either 1 using them or 2 releasing them somehow? We know Ed and if Ed knew that all he had to do was give up alchemy for Al's life he would've done it without a second thought. Taken word for word from episode 30, we have: "God? This is why today, hospitals, insurance agencies, and other institutions relating to the health industry often make use of a symbol consisting of a snake entwined around a rod as well. In the old series, on the opening, where they show the picture of Edward and alphonse when they were little, you will find there is a book cover slightly seen, which says "Dawn" at the end, actually it refers to a very old alchemical book regarding the philosopher's stone, "The age of the golden dawn".....another symbol is that Edward's look. Why doesn't anyone who knows Alchemy help? Incarnations View all 10 versions of Scar on BTVA. I expected the series to blow away my expectations with how Ed saved Al, not do the last second third option that saves the day and makes the ending to the series all sugary and sweet like every Hollywood blockbuster out here. On March 31, 2016, FUNimation Entertainment's license to the series expired. I understand the dramatic weight (main character vs main villain), but it doesn't make sense within the logic of the universe. The one thing he came to Amesteris for in the first place. What about Scar's arm? The following episodes then contain a Roy Mustang who appears to have stigmata. Mustang however can kill the one person who killed his best friend and end it. Scar VOICE. Maybe someone else has ideas on this? It’s been 4 years, but do I give a fuck? Good point, but this is anime. However it happens and whatever happens, it's left to the imagination, because this story has concluded. The theme there could be that we truly are only human and thus are faced with the inevitability that there are some points in our lives where to get what we want, we have to sacrifice something else. J Michael Tatum is the English dub voice of Scar in Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, and Kenta Miyake is the Japanese voice. The pride that he had only once used human lives as a tool. Instead, we'll simply look at it as Leto being an all-around bastard. Completely a different and indirect way to express a message on society to help them question life and seek knowledge on their own. Thanks for bringing this to light, pun intended :). Scar's brother (real name unknown) was an Ishvalan scholar who studied Alchemy and, in the manga and the 2009 anime, Alkahestry . Hoenhime knew Ed well enough at that point to where he knew Ed would refuse. We don't see anyone besides Pinako's reaction to Hoenhime's death. Now he would have to use them again to save his brother. The marking held by each of the Homunculi (on Lust's neck, on Gluttony's tongue, on Pride's eye, etc.) Ouroboros doesn't have the star symbol inside and surely was added by the author. Everything has to be dramatic, 13. The scene is around 5 minutes real time including flashbacks, not a big deal, 2. Scar has a reason to be consumed with vengeance because there's no way he can kill every state alchemist in existence. If you thought this was the greatest ending ever then good for you. Rachael Lefler from Illinois on January 02, 2012: This was very interesting, it's hard not to notice all these in the anime but it's tough to figure out what they mean and whether the creators intended a symbolic meaning by using them. If you want to bring an iron hammer down on me, do it yourself without having to rely on God, human!". I feel there's still some aspects that could be explored further. Hm... Maybe if Hoenhime had told mustang about the reverse transmutation circle, then he would've been more willing to try to save her life. Fuehrer King Bradley doesn't like God. 22. They take time to convince mustang not to kill envy even though the main characters are in a heated situation that requires them to kill father before the coup d'état loses ground to the Amestrian military. 1. Meanwhile Scar was just wanted revenge for the sake of it. At first glance, King Bradley appears as a cheerful and easy-going man who frequently escapes responsibilities to have some free time, offers people melons and watermelons or dresses as a tourist when he goes to a countryside town, while at the same time ruling his country with an iron fist. Everyone just sits on the sidelines as Ed beats up father. His targets are State Alchemists, who had been used by the Amestrian government as living weapons, wiping out Ishvalans by the dozens and hundreds with weaponized alchemy. Father literally bites greed's soul out of his body. How come when father tries to take greed's stone the first time he doesn't try as hard as the second? Well, he finds a passageway leading to Father's nation-wide transmutation circle, but it's flooded. He is responsible for saving his brother's life during the war in Ishval, sacrificing himself and giving away his right arm, which later allows Scar to kill state alchemists. It's not like seeing their funerals would've given us anything. 25. Thanks for sharing, and thanks for answering my question by directing me to this great hub. Again, Ed says no because it conflicts with his ideals and because he found a different way, not pride, 23: What? Also, the priest was eaten by gluttony. You must accept that the only way you can be justified is through the sacrifice of another. On the mustang part he did need some sense of closure killing envy would have been the least they could allow him to do. About Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood. But as for me, I despise it. But what happened was his works were translated and edited, before becoming absorbed into the Christian mindset as the list of seven sins that we now have today. Disregard for alchemy's laws ripped half of Ed Elric's limbs from his body and left Al's soul clinging to a suit of armor. The person beyond the door then smiled and said that was the right answer. Scar's Brother: They loved each other dearly. I think one of the biggest evidences that can be offered to the comparison of Christianity is actually the ending pertaining to both Ed and Dwarf in the flask and the way people are saved. Keep in mind the first time he was being attacked on all sides the first time around and then once he loses the power of God he's suddenly desperate. We are perhaps meant to understand his choice of euthanasia, as Nina comes to him as well. All he knows is that it'll offer him some sense of closure in regards to Hughes. 24. One of the survivors of the massacre is Scar, an Ishvalan who forsook his own name to seek revenge on those who had all but destroyed his people. Jesus instructed that faith in him and not in your own works was the way to salvation. He starts out in the basement of a church. In each of the popularity polls made by Monthly Shōnen Gangan Scar has appeared within the top 20. Read our Privacy Policy and Cookie Policy to get more information and learn how to set up your preferences. 11. 12. King Bradley is wrath in brotherhood not pride. has meaning as well. Instead of inventing random characters like Dante, the real story takes both characters and the audience into the very center of the maze where the meaning of life undergoes an unraveling. Also, Elric brothers flannel/armoire symbol is indicating both Christian cross and ancient Greek medicine symbol plus a Crown and two wings which probably symbolize Farvahar in Zoroastriaism (in ancient Persia). This has given me something to think about! And here's the 27 reasons why. What about Izumi?! I found, however, that the series also happens to be a series that is rich with symbolism, and which can encourage a good amount of thought and debate. What's that great quote from black butler, "Revenge won't bring the dead back and it certainly won't make them happy. Now worth noting, is that Pride had previously voiced his thoughts on the idea of God. With the power of alchemy, they use taboo knowledge to resurrect her. Sounds like something Old Testament. Doesn't the lack of the god power make him need the stone less since now he just has to worry about keeping himself alive? I did it for myself.". Voted Up and awesome. They don't have a soul unto themselves, do they? Father doesn't hear/care about that at the very end the whole point of their attacks are to make him use his philosophers stone. It’s a belief borne out of the Ishvalan religion, though Scar’s rag… In Brotherhood, Scar is there to kill Tucker. His creations, the homunculi, are named after the seven deadly sins (Wrath, Envy, Pride, Gluttony, Sloth, Greed, and Lust.) Asclepius was the son of the more commonly recgonized Apollo. So I'll do bullet points to keep it organized. When Jesus was alive he mainly dealt with a religious group called the pharisees. Thanks a lot everyone, I'm glad you found it interesting. His right arm -or hand - destroys. Of course, these seven concepts have been popularized as sins by the historic poet Dante (which is probably why in the 2003 series the counterpart to the Father character is named as such), but their origin actually far pre-dates Dante's Divine Comedy. At the Armstrong mansion, Scar recovers, and Oliver informs him of Miles' plan to help Mustang help the Ishbalans. Why do I hate Fullmetal alchemist brotherhood's ending? Alchemy is bound by this Law of Equivalent Exchange—something the young brothers Edward and Alphonse Elric only realize after attempting human transmutation: the one forbidden act of alchemy. However, we won't go in that direction -- at least not in this article. It’s a topic that is lesser discussed compared to other elements of the narrative, but it is just as prominent of a theme as nearly anything else. Moreover, it is able to completely tell the storyline as written by the mangaka from beginning to end, faithful to the source. The universe, life, soul, mind, body, alchemy and everything. To restore what was lost, the brothers seek the Philosopher's Stone. 9. Early in the series, Ed and Al visit the city of Lior, where a religious cult has emerged. Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood – 38. In the same way dwarf in the flask tried to be perfect but for all his boasting was not and in the end was condemned for it. He transmuted the arm of what appears to be a religious deity, and uses it to attack Leto. Scar immediately sets out to kill Edward and kills a military policeman that comes to find the Elrics. Is that a good start? In fact, on more than one ocassion, the homunculi -- different ones -- state explicitly, that they have "died." How did Ed even come to that conclusion? What about the souls within the stone? In the same way Ed threw away his door rejecting the idea of equivalent exchange saying that it lead to more trouble then it was worth and in the end admitting that he was a lowly human. Two incidents that occur within the series may remind the viewer of Jesus. The main antagonist of the series, Father. *hoards of fanboys yelling at me for making a blanket statement with nothing to back it up.*. :). This article will contain major spoilers. He lost his pupils, 8. People need him on the promised day and he’s torturing envy instead, 7. Seriously though I've watched that scene over and over again. The priest, Cornello, was trying to accomplish money and power by tricking the people in that city in believing in his miracles. In 2010 deity, and died in 1418 ever then good for you did truth. Not for how this series ended I would n't have even considered going back and watching 2003. People on Pinterest 10 versions of Scar on BTVA do that Edward Can't Okay fine and versa! 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