459 95. I also have a 8.5' 4wt that I love, but it has pretty much become a dry fly only rod, and since I rarely (if ever) go to the stream with the purpose of fishing dries, I rarely use this rod. Echo Shadow X Euro Nymph Package Price: $599.95. The Thomas & Thomas Contact is an unbelievable stick. 169 99. (And I own the Echo Shadow which is a nice rod but not above these two). Echo Shadow II - 2-weight Rod This is the most delicate rod in the series. The 2100 is a great small water stick. ), the BTW remains at 9.90oz whatever the chosen configuration. Having a light rod that is well-balanced with your reel is an important thing to consider when picking up a rod of this type. 19 95. Then, after adding in succession the 2 pieces of the Competition Kit, the measurements are taken at 10'6 and 11'2. O. osseous Well-known member. Messages 1,722 Reaction score 421. Echo Carbon XL. The Echo Shadow II is a rod with a very sober look, where the black colour predominates (whether that be on the rings, the matte blank or the reel seat in anodised aluminium). The Echo Shadow II is a redesigned version of the original Shadow, and is one of our favorite European Nymphing rods! They offer the angler a light tip and touch to help connect them to their nymphs and obtain perfect drifts for catching trout in rivers and streams. The rods are sensitive and have plenty of butt section to handle larger fish. I mostly fish smaller wild trout streams in Western North Carolina, so it's mostly fish in the 8"-14" range with the occasional big brown. To learn more about the Cortland Competition MKII Nymph Fly Rod, please click here. The #2/3 power allow to cast a wide panel of nymph weights (beads size from 2 mm for the 10') with a predilection for the lightest models. Sorry this was so long, but I got excited at the possibility of hearing the opinions of someone who has handled a lot more nymph rods than me or any of my fishing buddies. Echo Shadow II Competition Kit. It's a nymph fishing rod that has a huge number of supporters around the world and many of them have also started using it for dry fly fishing! I have a TFO 10 foot 5 weight I bought used. Good for tight-lining and little else, in my experience. Whether you fly fish a 2wt on small creeks for brook trout, a 14' 9wt for Steelhead or Atlantic Salmon, or Tarpon on a 12wt; your contributions and questions will be welcomed and appreciated! Both would be awesome choices. A 9’6’’ – 2 weight, a 10’ – 3 weight, a 10’6’’ – 3 weight, a 10’ – 4 weight as well as a 10’6’’ – 4 weight. A short description from Echo on the Shadow II series: “Light and fast, the Shadow II offers critical line feel and control with an action that will also toss a loop when the bugs start flying.” At the Shadow II’s price point ($249.99), I think you will be very pleased with its feel and performance. Echo Shadow X. ECHO fly rods are superior fly fishing rods designed by Timmie Rajeff, friend and confidant, and we fish all of the ECHO rods at one time or other throughout the season. The #2 and #3 rods are ideally suited to Euro Nymphing, while the #4's crossover into both Euro & Indicator nymphing. For more advance anglers, take a good look at the Echo … Welcome to StreamX where buying flies, tying, or flyfishing tackle is quick, affordable and simple. Ask me any questions you may have about flex/speed/etc! Having used these rods, do you think the upgrade would be worth it? In terms of rods for tight-line nymphing, the Thomas & Thomas Contact is hands down the best rod I've tried. And yes, this rod is light. So from my experience (both rods I've had in hand and rods teammates and insanely good (far beyond my skill level) nymph fishermen have fished), here's my breakdown. It retails for $249.99 and the competition kit goes for $74.99. I used an Echo Shadow 2 3wt and did not like it. These rods are specifically designed for European Style Nymph Fishing. Over the past few years, I've euro nymphed with about a dozen different euro sticks; both custom builds I've done or pre-built rods I've purchased. A slightly oldie but goodie. Pretty much all the factors that go into making a rod shine. I’m currently looking for a 10-11ft 3 weight rod that someone would recommend for a euro nymphing setup. Orvis H3. Press J to jump to the feed. Echo is a brand created by Tim Rajeff, a famous fishing guide and American fly fishing competitor, based in Vancouver, Washington. Important note: so much of this, like with other rods, is feel. In my area of the SE, the 2wt is the perfect rod, and I have landed so many fish on it, some to 24". NB: The verified weight of the rod and the BRW do not take into account the counterweight. Kind of clunky and works better with a 6 weight line. Next level up but incredible rods even at their higher price. In 10', the Echo Shadow II requires 24 cents to be folded over a third of its total length, so its ERN is 2.53, giving it an ideal line number 2. Quick review of all 3 members of the Echo Shadow II family of rods. We have matched it with: Echo 2/3 Ion reel; Cortland Competition Nymph line; Ca Custom leader with sighter and tippet ring; Bag and Case. I did use a Sage ESN 2 10'6" 3wt and while it was better than the Syndicate it wasn't three times better as the price difference is. New Echo Shadow II, w next level being new Echo Shadow X. Cortland Competition. The weight of the rod varying in the opposite direction (3.5oz with 1 counterweight, 3.84oz with 2, 4.2oz with 3...etc. My Echo Shadow II 10′ 3 weight with the Competition Kit does have the ability to extend to 10 1/2′ or 11′ which I occasionally use. I have the 11’3’’ 3wt and I think it might be the best rod I’ve ever fished relative to its intended purpose on a river. Superior warranty service at the lowest cost, fast delivery, and wonderful rod actions are the hallmark of the ECHO Brand. The Shadow II Euro Rod requires you to purchase the fighting butt and weights separately in the competition kit. It consists of: The Common Cents System protocol was first applied to the rod in its original 10' version. Here is the test of one of its flagship products: the Echo Shadow II 10' line 2. The BTWs increase in these lengths, respectively to 10.9 and 13.4oz. I prefer the 10 foot rods over the 11 footers. My first nymph stick that is all around rock solid. I usually think an 11 foot rod feels terrible. What I like (very fast) may not at all be what you like, so keep in mind some subjectivity per fisherman, here..Also, my recommendation will always be for a 10 or 10'6" 3wt, New Orvis Clearwater (designed by George Daniel), w next level being Orvis Recon, New Echo Shadow II, w next level being new Echo Shadow X. Cortland Competition. Love my 2wt euro from them plus it comes an extra tip nice feature. In the longer lengths, 10'6 and 11'2, the ERN and the AA remain identical. This is a subreddit for anglers who pursue, or wish to pursue, their favorite fish on fly rods. All that to say, I have been considering selling both rods and upgrading to a higher performance 10' 3wt rod to split the different between the rods and (hopefully) get one rod that can do both things well. Edge Shadow II and Shadow X Orvis Recon 3100 Redington Hydrogen Cortland Competition and Competition MKII ... Steve (aka waycool) uses the Cortland Competition and Competition MKII 3 wt and loves that rod. This rod has a lifetime warranty, comes in a hard rod tube, and the rod costs $675. And I should note, while I love my Cortland, my custom rod made by u/jfred17 (in your price point easily!!) The Cortland Competition MKII Nymph Fly Rod is available in four sizes: 10-foot 2 weight, 10.5-foot 3 weight, 11-foot 2 weight, and 11-foot 3 weight. An element with a ring allowing it to go from 10'6 to 11'2. The Syndicate has been great for nymphing - sensitivity is incredible - but leaves a bit to be desired when throwing dries and even dry droppers (and, of course, the occasional streamer). 3 counterweights of 0.35oz each fixable to the butt, to add depending on the weight of your reel to achieve balance. The results are presented in the 3 tables below. Logically, the frequency decreases (it is conversely proportional to the length, that's actually the challenge with long rods, to manage to maintain a high reactivity and therefore a precise fishing action): the frequency goes to 72cpm in 10'6 then to 69cpm in 11'2. Its length is 10' in its original version, and an optional Competition Kit (priced at about 75 USD) allows you to lengthen it. Cortland Indicator Mono. Probably one of the better write-ups you'll find out there: https://www.tridentflyfishing.com/blog/2018-european-style-nymphing-fly-rod-shootout-fly-rod-review/. Echo offers the Shadow X in a variety of the popular weights and length combination which should cover just about every conceivable trout situation. 29 99. The Competition Kit allows you to adjust the length, Andrew Wading Boots Review : Creek and Fly, Fishing modern dry dropper methods (tandem flies), Review : Vision XO GRAPHENE 9'7 5wt, 10'3 and 11'4 3wt, Review : Thomas & Thomas Contact II 10' 2wt. The Cortland rod is one that I feel pretty good about but it just has something about it that holds me back from using it over the Shadow. Czech … Available with an optional Competition Kit ($74.99) that includes two 6” extensions, a removable fighting butt, and counterweight washers to fine-tune the rod’s balance. Tim has distinguished himself in the competition world through his unrivalled casting skills, and he began developing fly rods in 1980. Echo Shadow X Euro Nymph Rods Price: $459.00. NB: The verified weight of the rod and the BRW do not take into account the counterweight. Here's a list of some euro nymphing rod manufacturers with some links to some reviews: http://brflyfishing.org/fly-fishing/euro-nymphing/euro-nymphing-rod-manufacturers. Echo Shadow 2 Rod Review Its amazing how specialized fly fishing has become in our current modern world. To really maximize your rods performance for Euro Nymphing, consider purchasing a matching Cortland Competition Nymph line. Euro Nymphing requires precision and sensitivity to hit the target and feel not only fish biting, but also current seams, the bottom, and anything else that will dictate where to present your fly. Rio FIPS Euro Nymph Line. 795 00. "The Echo Shadow II rod was developed by Tim Rajeff and Pete Erickson, a member of the American national team of fly fishing. Modern Nymphing Elevated — Devin Olsen and Lance Egan DVD. Next level up but incredible rods even at their higher price. Shu Fly 10 foot 4 weight was the go-to for a couple of years. THE ROD: Echo Shadow II. Here's a recent review of the T&T Contact I wrote up: http://brflyfishing.org/fly-fishing/euro-nymphing/thomas-thomas-contact-nymphing-fly-rod-review. Cortland Competition Nymph Rod. Both seem like amazing rods but I wanted to ask if anyone’s had experience with these two rods and is their anything else one would recommend for euro nymphing. The Shadow X was used to win the 2018 National Fishing Championships and is designed for the competitive angler. The results are presented in the 3 tables below. I agree there are a lot of new tight line rods out there for less than 300.00 like the shadow II, syndicate, epiphany (by moonshine) that were not reviewed this year but should be next year and will be different. Sage ESN. Light and fast, the Shadow II offers critical line feel and control with an action that will also toss a loop when the bugs start flying. The Syndicate is a bit slower. Syndicate P2 Pipeline. I feel like Euro Nymphing brought me back to nymphing. A slightly oldie but goodie. With advancements in graphite and resins, most fly rods are pretty light in the hand. Customers love the Echo Shadow II rod and it has proven itself both effective and durable. Echo Carbon XL Euro Nymph Package ... Echo Shadow II Euro Nymph Rods Price: $289.00. Nymph Fishing: New Angles, Tactics, and Techniques. ... Cortland Competition Braided Core Fly Line; Cortland Competition Mono Core Fly Line. I appreciate any insight you might have! Even with the longer rods, weight is becoming less and less of a concern when it comes to the performance of the rod, though it’s still something I like to at least consider. 34 95. While other affordable options are now on the market, such as the Echo Shadow II, Syndicate P2, and the Redington Hydrogen, Cortland really did start the fire, and despite a growing market, Cortland Competition Nymph rods have remained competitive. One offering is from Cortland appropriately named the Competition Nymph Series that is offered in several models. Cortland Competition Nymph 10' 6'' 3wt. ), the BTW remains at 10.9oz whatever the chosen configuration. I don’t much like the first generation Cortland competition (10.5 foot 3 weight). Hope this helps some! His range now consists of robust products, no frills, at a reasonable price. Ditch the bobber and try tight line nymph fishing. I have been looking at the new Echo Shadow X (I have a couple Echo rods and I'm a huge fan) and the Orvis Recon. It will seduce those who are adept in using light and reactive products, at a reasonable price (about 250 USD). Instead I take the Syndicate to nymph and end up fishing dries if I have an opportunity. trumps all my other nymph sticks. Which one will suit your needs? Finally, the possibility of fixing counterweights to the butt provides a balanced setup regardless of the weight of the reel chosen: it is the rod that adapts to the reel this time! The opinion of Lionel Fournier, champion of France in 2018 and member of France's fly fishing team: "I really like this rod because it's a "real" 10' line 2, contrary to others announced as such but that are actually much more powerful. There are nicer rods out there, but you will pay far more. Cortland Nymph Series Fly Rods Price: $299.95. This rod is packed with innovative features to reduce fatigue, encourage balance, and increase casting accuracy. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. My first nymph stick that is all around rock solid. Based in Cape Town, South Africa, we ship a large range, fast. Best bang for you buck when it comes to sensitivity, length, casting, weight. In 10', the Echo Shadow II requires 24 cents to be folded over a third of its total length, so its ERN is 2.53, giving it an ideal line number 2. It gives you the ability to fish 6X or even 7X tippets and therefore catch the wariest of trout. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The weight of the rod varying in the opposite direction (3.7oz with 1 counterweight, 4oz with 2, 4.41oz with 3...etc. Czech nymphing and Euro nymphing are highly effective strategies for trout. ... Echo, Redington, and the first generation Sage ESN. I use it for 10' euronymphing and for light dryfly fishing with a line 2, as well as with an additional extension (10'6): in this configuration, it is to my knowledge one of the only 10'6 line 2 on the market! We have affordable options to get started Czech or Euro Nymphing- the Echo Carbon Xl Euro Nymphing Outfit is an excellent option to get you started. Nov 24, 2019 Tested with the 10’6″ 4WT. The efficiency and accuracy of the Contact for tight-line techniques is beyond amazing and I now (literally) have a collection of euro sticks that I don't use cause all I ever grab for EN is the Contact. Moonshine makes good rods for the price. After fishing with it for a day I was able to make adjustments in my casting stroke and felt comfortable with it. Obviously the T&T Contact is a top of the line rod, and the price reflects that. Echo’s all-new Shadow X series replaces their previous Euro Nymphing rod series the Shadow II. Trout & Co : The flyfishing online magazine - Copyright © 2021 - All rights reserved. Then, after adding in succession the 2 pieces of the Competition Kit, the measurements are taken at 10'6 and 11'2. Hope this helps some! Best on the market or best recommendation for someone’s first nymph stick? Also, let me know if you have any questions about the fishing I do that might help to clarify your recommendations. Cortland Top Secret - Ultra Premium Fluorocarbon Tippet. Thomas and Thomas Contact. Not OP, but I have a related question that I'd love to hear your thoughts on: I currently have the Syndicate 10' 2wt, which I really like for nymphing. Thomas & Thomas Contact. These are 4pc. I was bored with indicator fishing. ECHO Shadow X: A Rod for Elite-level Competition Euro Nymph Anglers In order to create the Shadow X, ECHO worked with veteran Euro Nymph guru Pete Erickson, 2018 fly fishing world champion Norm Maktima, and expert Mariusz Wrobewski to create a rod that’s dialed-in … I love my Cortland but I like a faster action rod. The long and light construction of the Shadow II allows you to reach out and over conflicting currents all day without getting worn out. Two VERY different answers.. Best on the market for price to performance ratio. In the longer lengths, its best use is for euronymphing in big rivers, where casting gestures are more ample and slow (prospecting in shadowy water, for example). The fast action (AA of 73°) and the frequency at 74cpm attest to real opportunities in dry fly fishing. A very good line for detecting a strike. Cortland Competition MKII Nymph Rods Price: $675.00. I dream of Euro nymphing. rods. Back when I started in the 70s I had two rods, 5 and 7 weights, both Fenwick fiberglass models matched with Pflueger reels and Cortland lines. I was looking at the sage esn hd 10’6” 3 wt or the Marryat Tactical Pro Nymph special 10’6” 3wt. NB  : The verified length and weight of the rod take into account the fighting butt and the BRW take into account the fighting butt and 3 counterweights. This has been fine since my fishing is probably 75% nymphing, 20% dry/dry dropper, and 5% streamers, but when I am throwing dry flies I do find the Syndicate struggles a bit (this could also just be my squarely mediocre casting ability!). With its ideal line number 2, this rod is quite versatile in 10' for light fly fishing (nymph and dry fly). Unlike many ultra-fast references of the market, these Cortland rods have relatively progressive actions which are a great advantage during the fights with all-sized fishes and especially large-sized ones. This rod offers very comfortable 10' fishing, the total weight of the balanced set (BTW) is only 9.90oz : the balance is therefore better than that of most models of equivalent ranges, and even than that of certain ranges of a much higher price! Norman Maktima became a champion in fly fishing in the United States by using this rod.". A line number 2 seems best indicated, although the manufacturer advises a WF3. Easy Online shopping. The Echo Shadow II Euro Nymphing Fly Rod is the most popular rod at Red's due to its unbeatable price. Euro Nymphing Rods, Lines, Leaders, Tippets, and Accessories. The Echo Shadow 2 Euro Nymph rod is one of our best selling rods. Models available: 10' 2wt., 10'0 3wt., 10'6 … In fact, I find it to a high degree considering its reasonable price: the finish is good, the additional elements and counterweights allow you to adapt to various fishing situations.". Its success is impressive! 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